Posted by 17 days ago. 13 … ToP UI Goku vs Moro 73 would be interesting but I would give the advantage to Moro 73 So in the manga jiren was actually weaker than MUI but was able to last him out the same thing actually applied to Moro before the 7-3 absorption. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Now that same gohan was getting beaten down badly even with the aid of a massively stronger Piccolo, and androids 17 and 18 by saganbo like it was really really bad. Interesting, I was expecting people would make the case more for limit breaker Jiren than for Moro-73. He trashed Vegeta but not sure what that is worth. @jashro44: Actually, Whis said that it wouldn't have mattered if Goku could've maintained Sign longer, Moro was just too strong. Ah yes, calling me wrong when you made no attempt to address any part of my argument. Moro 73 vs Jiren and MUI goku (TOP) VS. gohan in the manga is about as strong as goku was during the TOP arc. Everyone could follow ToP Sign's movements in the brief time it appeared. Moro definitely claps his own physical power should be on the level of Jiren already but his hax just easily gives him the win. One has to be only faster to be able to negate his hax and in the manga UI Goku was fast enough not to be affected by the passive ki drain. Now here comes goku in blue form mind you beating down a Saganbo that got ANOTHER amp from Moro and toying with him no less. That said piccolo said Moro added 73’s powers to his own and he did copy vegetas technique and piccolos regeneration. He has a lot more hax than jiren which might balance jirens power and skill edge. Moro 73 is DEFINITELY stronger than Jiren! Moro outlasted UI not MUI, it's two different levels of power. I don’t think Moro got much stronger from eating 73. The only difference is that UI goku sign is vastly stronger than his sign form in the TOP. Frieza wasn't even significantly damaged by her assault, at most he got amused. @the_hajduk: He may not be as strong as jiren but he does have some hax. Also, Merus clearly explained the nature of their training to Whis. Tell me how does that relate to his UI Omen being stronger exactly? Move topic to another board Pick a board and hit submit Board the thing is though the goku and Vegeta Moro beat were massively massively stronger than they were during the TOP. Now we are talking about Jiren before he went full power shirtless so hear me out is very simple. I.e. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. So filling Sanganbo like a balloon until reaching SSB tier is nothing. Moro's draining technique can easily be evaded by Jiren's speed. People forget Moro can store energy and replenish himself passively. On the other, none of them were on Moro's level. Moro's spirit fission technique is completely useless against Jiren. He's not the easiest person to take off guard. Because Moro’s powers are stolen. Oh really now so I take it that you have an issue with manga gohan in the TOP being around the same levels of blue TOP goku right? How strong one might ask well let me give you an example. Now that same gohan was getting beaten down badly even with the aid of a massively stronger Piccolo, and androids 17 and 18 by saganbo like it was really really bad. First and foremost Jiren would not know to dodge Moro’s absorption since he wouldn’t know what Moro would be doing and we know Moro can use this ability subtlety and throughout a fight like he did against goku and Vegeta in their first encounter while he was both massively weaker than them and a feeble old man. I still kinda want to side with Jiren, until I see how Moro handles MUI Goku. I will wait for the next chapter before I call this fight. There is no solid basis that you can use to scale that Jiren can beat Moro, nor Moro can beat Jiren. I'm not reading past this. Since we know for a fact moro is physically stronger than full power jiren now and there's no denying it do you think moro could beat jiren and MUI goku from the TOP at … Jiren won the same way Moro did. After absorbing 73 he’s without a doubt in Jiren’s tier. @noobsnowman: I literally never claimed he did. Moro is UI Omen level if he and Goku fought equally until Goku ran out of stamina. Which is why I think he has a shot. @PridedWaif and I go over Jiren VS Moro by reading YOUR comments!Who do YOU think would win in a hypothetical battle? Still trying to argue that Jiren > Beerus is hilarious. UI/Angel Moro73 vs 12 Gods of Destruction, Jiren, and Broly Thread starter Blocky; Start date Oct 20, 2020; Blocky Kami-Sama. Moro looked like he was taking damage at various points in the fight. The issue is that, that’s all jiren has: power. The Goat prolly wins, shonen tends to introduce stronger villain. Full Power Moro takes Jiren on. @the_hajduk: yes he is believe me and it’s pretty easy to prove too. Discussion in 'Dragon Ball Battledome' started by Omegas03, Sep 26, 2020. Because It's state of mind. Also Beerus UI is weaker than Goku. That makes me think maybe beerus is above Moro in which case I would favour jiren. Pretty sure it was said omen was stronger than Moro and would have won if he could maintain that power. Um, that's factually wrong. Sure Vegeta is stronger but Jiren before even going full power was trashing Goku, Frieza, 17, and Vegeta at the same time. Moro was superior to this much stronger Goku prior to even absorbing 73. Not to make the form more powerful. Goku also asked Merus to train him so he can access UI at will, that was like the very basis of their training to begin with. Moro arc Sign is definitely an improvement over ToP Sign in the manga. Moro 10/10. The only difference is that UI goku sign is vastly stronger than his sign form in the TOP. Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Dragon Ball is more than just anime/manga it's a way of life -DBZAOTA. Omegas03. Very typical of you especially when the fact that blue goku in just the black arc got massively stronger as he fought merged zamasu. He also has infinite stamina so jiren is not wearing him out and if he grabs the back of Jiren’s neck it’s literally game over no matter what which he could do easily since he can cast illusions and use one to distract jiren while he grabs the back of his neck. Add in Moro's energy absorbing with his weird magic and he'd win. 73 Moro VS Jiren: Here is where it gets controversial cause i think 73 Moro wins and in a comfortable way. Whis said he doubts Goku would have made much headway even if he focused on stamina and didn’t go full power. Are you trolling Kale herself clearly has the feats that she’s blue level by straight up overpowering blue goku and ragdolling golden frieza and Kefla has more battle intellect than her. Jiren/ToP UI Goku and Broly > Beerus. Jiren isn’t. Why? :(Oct 22, 2020 Goku was able to react to it, granted he saw that trick before. He was able to react to hit attacking him from a different dimension and some how sensed him. Moro 73 vs Jiren and MUI goku (TOP) VS. Close. Moro-73 has access to all of his copy abilities including Vegeta's. Messages: 35,029 Likes Received: 13,640 Trophy Points: 5,307 Joined: Jun 30, 2013. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The way I see it, it really doesn’t matter on who’s stronger or not what matters is that they’re both in the same levels of power. Outcome 1- UIO Goku(Moro arc) fights a FP Jiren and decently holds his own at beast but gets overwhelmed and defeated. No you’re the one who’s factually wrong piccolo even directly stated that goku’s power increased astronomically before goku even went into the sign form. Goku got stronger after the TOP and then got even more strong after the Broly movie and then even stronger post Merus training. But LB Jiren is MUI Goku level. @jashro44: I used anime version since thats the strongest jiren is and well moro-73 is only in the manga for now. If Jiren was brutal enough at the start he could put the pressure on Moro and not let him recover, but chances are Jiren wouldn't do that in character. Kefla in the manga is basically the same as Kale but with Caulifla's battle intellect. 0 Kudos ChadWellington69. Now here comes goku in blue form mind you beating down a Saganbo that got ANOTHER amp from Moro and toying with him no less. jiren seems pretty aware. And the androids also noted how durable Moro is so it wasn't just a Goku thing. discord wazuki#0831 B.net Wazuki1694. Especially since he one shotted a Vegeta that’s > CURRENT UI Omen Goku. But Moro has so much more at his disposal, He can drain people’s energy making them weaker as the fight progresses, He can use the planets own life energy as a weapon which means he always has a territorial advantage, He can cast illusions to catch his opponent off guard and this is especially dangerous when he uses it in tandem with his copying ability like he did with Vegeta, He has piccolo tier regeneration so blowing off any limbs or putting any holes in his stomach he would regenerate just fine, He can use instant transmission which means he’ll always be faster than his opponent. Also kind of important to it to gauge the levels of power Moro has. Save changes Preview Cancel. He would win before but now it makes it a stomp. Jiren deflected spirit bombs with his eyes. Moro stomps now. And Seven-Three's ability doesn't just copy techniques, but also the person's power level. Vegeta and Toppo weren't even fighting her, she just rushed in and caught them off guard. Moro stomps. Now what I’m trying to establish isn’t if Moro is physically more powerful than Jiren. Come on guys he isn’t beating Jiren, he’s not that strong. Jiren has done all of Moro’s feats but much better. @jashro44: Full power Goku was barely hurting Moro from the start even before he wore himself out. Also had his arm blown clean off by a standard kamekamha. Moro as of now should be stronger than UI goku sign who like I said before is massively stronger than the sign form he displayed in the TOP. Moro also has far more then forced spirit fission since he can use instant transmission now which would give jiren some troubles along with very good regeneration. Jiren VS Moro POWER LEVELS Dragon Ball Super featuring final form Moro seven three power level and Super Full Power Jiren power level. Moro would have ran out the clock either way was his point. He was hugging and puffing and asking what moro’s body was made out of. Also kind of important to it to gauge the levels of power Moro has. IMO Moro can take Jiren even before he absorbed Seven-Three. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Merus trained Goku to access UI at will and work on its stamina usage. The fact is that it’s pretty indisputable that Moro is around Jiren’s level of power. The fact is that it’s pretty indisputable that Moro is around Jiren’s level of power.
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