However, I do have two ways of removing things, Capricious Efreet and also Dominus of Fealty + World Queller let me do this fun thing where I take any permanent and then immediately sacrifice what I took with the World Queller trigger. Another couple of suggestions! The amount of utility cards that facilitates for a large-creature/stompy deck (like giant tribal) is completely unparalleled and unrivaled. Boros Charm, Golgari Charm, and Wrap in Vigor work well in that capacity. This is on top of the superior ramping ability of Green and it's above-average removal options. For example, a vanilla 2/2 vampire can get to be a 5/5 thanks to lord effects, but without is just a 2/2 doing nothing else nor helping building up your strategy. I am wondering if you would ever run those cards in a high power combo deck for draw redundancy and inevitability. Garruk's Uprising alone is reason to run at least Green. Merciless Eviction is one of the best removal spells in the game. One extremely important thing for large-creature decks is to consider how you're going to recover from board wipes. You could even run some interesting charms like Abzan Charm or Esper Charm. The annoyance with 'do you want to pay one extra' is kind of a running gag here. If you're interested we can brew a fringe competetive list together. Contact | Don't feel bad about cutting them for meta specific cards though. Help | Press J to jump to the feed. We all know how good Phyrexian Arena can be. Palace Siege is all right on a budget. Syphon Mind is a great rate and has the upside of making your opponents discard. Usually I get to draw. If you're the guy they have to look to more than 25% of a round, you're probably the one getting attacked. Did not include that in price, roughly $35 value. Magic the Gathering, FNM is TM and copyright Wizards of the Coast, Inc, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. All rights reserved. I get that you may don't want to erase the board completely but you probably don't need so many creatures and basically one-two removals. In my The Locust God i go on quantity, in my Alela, Artful Provocateur i go on quality. About the card draw, you need more consistent cards that allows you to draw many times. Read the Bones is a solid card, but I wouldn't replace one with the other. So during my play tests, I am starting to feel cards such as arena, rhystic study and bob don't belong in a competitive setting. Browse through cards from Magic's entire history. Painful Truths might still be useful due to it's great rate (three cards for three mana is good). Terms of Use | by illidan123, Xant-stand-cha In my group, Rhystic Study is kind of a liability. Browse through cards from Magic's entire history. If you have free deckslots, you could use some card draw/late game gas and you're in these colors – play them. Perhaps I should make another thread for this post. The Arena sticks around and provides continual card advantage. That being said the main reason you run out of cards is that your mana curve is very low and you probably manage to cast many cards per turn. If they dont answer him the following turn you can expect the game to be in your favor by a lot. I personally think cards like Phyrexian Arena are always pretty good. Gontilordofmtg Thanks for commenting! add in Peregrine Drake and Temur Sabertooth for infinite colored mana? I you want to tune up your deck, I have some recommendations for that: I would play as many cool utility lands with a sacrifice effect and as many fetch lands as possible because they're needed for Delirium and have also great potential with the MVP in every graveyard deck Life from the Loam: Well, I'm sure that you already know what other options there are to tune up the deck. That alone is a great reason to run Blue in your deck (it's literally one of the best cards in EDH straight-up). This site is unaffiliated. Clipboard (0 Cards) Card Kingdom: $0.00. Card advantage like Phyrexian Reclamation, Palace Siege, Seasons Past, All Suns' Dawn, Reap the Past, Reap, Creeping Renaissance, Eerie Ultimatum, and abilities like Mayael the Anima's, Golos, Tireless Pilgrim's, and Kenrith, the Returned King's reanimate ability will help you recover. I'll explain myselft better, you need to see if you can manage to make a ton of small tokens or if you can manage better to make big ones. In 1v1 EDH (using the proper banlist of course) Phyrexian Arena is amazing while Rhystic Study is just kind of annoying. Thanks for your comment. I feel the life gain card are pretty important in this deck as Phyrexian Arena, Bitterblossom, Ancient Tomb, City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Spire of Industry, and Tarnished Citadel all do damage to me or make me lose life, and having that life gain cushion is ⦠Since this is a lifegain deck, this card gives me two really strong options with an easy to manage X cost - and straight up artifact and enchantment removal. Have you ever been stabbed in the back? My deck can't consistently pull off t4 wins - I believe its the problem with having to rely on tooth n nail entwined, so I was using arena and bob as a crutch to carry me through mid game. I am very happy about such comments, as it is difficult to keep an eye on every possible combination with over a thousand commanders, especially with such a commander like Ishkanah, which you don't meet in your LGS every day. Search for the perfect addition to your deck. Not necessary though. A hellish world with an accelerated evolution of artifact creatures. People want to do multiple things each turn and they can either do less or let me draw. Kills planeswalkers such as Jace and Tezzeret. I had the same problem with my first attempt to The Scarab God deck where i put in a lot of zombies that in the long term don't do enough. I agree on Cavalier of Night - overall while it is a great card, I don't think it fits. 10.00 - 15.29 With Necropotence and Solitary Confinement will damage prevention happen? Arena would probably be relevant ina. I used to have a deck list, but took that deck apart some time ago I'm afraid! I've considered adding the red siege enchantment, but I typically rely on Golos and hardly cast cards from my hand, nor top of the deck. The cmc is high, but so is the payoff, imo. Feeds | maybe Rampant Growth. Even in a table of 4 combo players, games can go long. so you could run things like Mortify, Despark, Utter End, Vindicate, Anguished Unmaking, Dreadbore, Terminate, Bedevil and Ruinous Ultimatum. Commander Usage. Is that number too high or too low? What is the general consensus here about those cards? Vedalken Orrery is a very popular card, as evidenced by its appearance in 14,588 decks on EDHREC. by fragarach97, Rainbow in the Dark: Haakon Reanimator Combo Toggle navigation. G o n t i l o r d o f m t g Thanks for commenting! Rush of Knowledge would be REALLY good in a giant-tribal deck--especially with Morophon, the Boundless at the helm. Mono-Black EDH commander deck custom, Yawgmoth, Thran Physician. DMCA requests | 8.99 - 999.99 I really like the direction of these two partners! There exist metas where every deck is storm / ad naus / Druid etc are the only decks. Arena is much easier to support than Necropotence, and by support I mean your deck's ability to cast either spell with regularity. Honestly, I really can't recommend it enough if true Giant-Tribal is the goal--whether Naya giants or five-color giants. If you play in French commander then arena is much much more of a safe card but still average, alot of people main deck things such as disenchant or krosan grip so its a big risk to play a card thats only worth your turn til two turns pass. Gatherer is the Magic Card Database. Iâm throwing in the blue Ultimate Guard Box with 20 six sided dice. A Clockwork Orrery. He brings nothing to the table for giant tribal other than being a decently-statted Giant himself and pigeonholes you into the worst color pair in EDH for essentially no benefit. by Santiago1011, Phyrexian Infection Itâs a powerful Enchantment that will draw you a card on your Unkeep. This is a subreddit dedicated to playing the Commander format of Magic: The Gathering at the highest power level possible. Thanks to your comment, I can see more of the potential of Ishkanah. Around these parts, that's often referred to as "hyperfast" metas. Welcome to Superior Numbers, where I try to do some numerical analysis on the popularity of a card using more math and less snark than in my usual column. Heliod's Intervention also puts in work. That being said, you should consider cutting off some creatures and implement the removal/boardwipe compartment. Really accelerates my combos or fills my hand with control cards. I cannot stress this enough. BB1 to draw two cards and lose two life is alright, so its only really really good after three turns have passed, everything before that its either average (slow nights whisper) or worst... btw confidant also can do 2 damage a turn, hes honestly bonkers even in high cc decks. Thanks for starting it. Inspired Ultimatum, while not amazing, is playable. =). Study is a bad card... arena and bob are insane i the right deck, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the CompetitiveEDH community. In my competitive Zur deck I have phyrexian arena in there that really doesn't do anything for me, I've been thinking about cutting it as I already have necropotence, and it's all you will ever need for card advantage but my deck is a competitive combo/voltron deck meant to win as quick as possible. Rhystic Study is an odd card. Obviously Black specializes in removal (but so does White!) The only bone I have with it is the mana required, along with the fact you have to pay life. Grothama, All-Devouring & Phyrexian Arena. [ [Rhystic Study]] is a bit different. Click the add button on any card to start building your decklist. Dark Confidant: One of the strongest form of card advantage in creature based builds (think of Food Chain Prossh). The secret is to take the creature type out of the equation and evaluate the cards on their own first and then inside the deck. I also prefer Read the Bones over Phyrexian Arena I find it to be quicker. Of course you can put some lord effect if you pick quantity and, on the other hand, some multiplier if you pick quality but you need to focus and pick on way and implement that. In 1v1 EDH (using the proper banlist of course) Phyrexian Arena is amazing while Rhystic Study is just kind of annoying. Temur Ascendancy would be reason alone to run five colors and be utterly fantastic in this deck. completely agree with Confidant being the nuts. draws you cards, helps speed the game up for you. EDH Political Science â Saskia and the Olive Branch. Arena is pretty average 97-100th card can easily see it not in most decks, I'd much rather use those spots for artifact removal if you play in the multiplayer banlist. you need more interactions. It's no Oversold Cemetery or Meren of Clan Nel Toth or Rise of the Dark Realms but those are pricey. Arena is guaranteed card draw and is useful all game, but Rhystic Study does not guarantee card draw and is almost useless past turn 6 or so (depending on the deck). Superior card-draw from Green, Black, and Blue cards will help immensely. Because compromises between the two strategies don't work well with token decks. Read the Bones is a one time effect. I want you to be satisfied with your deck! I don't think these metas are very popular, nor do I think their decks are very similar to those in competitive metas. 10.95 - 18.59 The problem here is that i don't believe honestly that many of those creatures are actually impactfull. ), Rainbow in the Dark: Haakon Reanimator Combo, Duel Decks: Phyrexia vs. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. Looks innocent. I think I see the value of just drawing a card, but how about searching/filtering effects? In faster tables, tapping out on turns 2-4 for a card that doesn't do anything till your next upkeep is dangerous (you kind of need a FoW in hand to do this). Some are stinkers of course. So is Twilight's Call. Rarity, #: R, 47 Card Type: Enchantment Description: At the beginning of your upkeep, you draw a card and you lose 1 life. If you're trying to win as fast as possible, then you can simply read those cards and tell they are not what you want. Phyrexian Arena is an attrition card that gets better the more cards it replaces itself with. Liesa, Angel of Punishment [PRIMER] EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander. That is hard to pass up! Turn 1 Mana Crypt > Rhystic Study is back breaking in a meta where most of the decks' game plan is to chain mana rocks into generals/tutors while protecting themselves with free counters. I actually have a shitload of this utility stuff on-hand, and you have some great staples like Cyclonic Rift on-hand--and probably more! Bob is the real deal. Rhystic Study: Is blue = is Force of Willable/Misdirectionable. See cards from the most recent sets and discover what players just like you are saying about them. Beast Whisperer, Phyrexian Rebirth, Smothering Tithe, Rhystic Study, Simic Ascendancy, Phyrexian Arena, Empowered Autogenerator, Cleansing Nova, Krosan Grip, Evolution Sage, Forgotten Ancient, Kodama's Reach, and Farseek, Herald of Secret Streams, and Fathom Mage need to go in. Blue also has all the card-draw--from per-turn stuff like Kumena's Awakening and Mind Unbound; chunks of cards like Concentrate, Treasure Cruise, Fact or Fiction, Fathom Trawl, and Tidings; huge hand-refillers like Overflowing Insight, Mind Spring, Stroke of Genius, and Pull from Tomorrow; and some sneaky stuff like Windfall, Keep Watch, Drawn from Dreams, Verity Circle, and Insight. In Garruk's Wake and Decree of Pain are probably good in your giant deck since you're ramping so hard. Thanks again for the feedback! Phyrexia, all day erryday. Since you're running White you shouldn't need Black's wraths, but those two stood out. These are things that Red and White simply can't do well. I would play Phyrexian Arena in pretty much any 1v1 deck with black in it, but I would never play Rhystic Study. Phyrexian Arena The perennial favourite of black decks for card draw is one that, despite a few reprints, has kept its cost in the $5-$8 range. EDIT: I forgot Bob. by ThePman, Niccolo Machiavelli- The Prince With tribal decks you may fall in the mistake that a card of the chosen type is always just fine, because you have some synergy here and there. If you were building around Brion's ability and had some giants around as support that would be one thing, but it seems that's not the goal. SirHipHopHippo on "At the beginning of your upkeep" Tribal 1 day ago. Im not a professional grader, but the cards are in excellent condition. As such, please consider switching commanders :) I think that if you want Brion Stoutarm as the commander, you should make a Brion deck. It's more like a building your army slowly but surely most of the times. I would play Phyrexian Arena in pretty much any 1v1 deck with black in it, but I would never play Rhystic Study. There is an article (I think Adam Styborski) about not drawing attention to yourself. However, in a Stax deck or something that goes for the long game and wins through resource denial, attrition and shear card advantage, Phyrexian Arena is very strong and Rhystic Study is usually good. TappedOut.js Blog Widget, ( Gatherer is the Magic Card Database. maybe Pyramid of the Pantheon or Chromatic Orrery this speeds and mana fixes you. by FenIsABasicSwamp, The Partnership | Edgar Markov Looking at your Mana curve you need to consider that one-two drops are fine, but you also need to have more impactfull cards on the board when the game goes on. I really do think you'll be happier in the long run with a different commander It doesn't have to be expensive. Necropotence is a draw engine and win condition due to how far back it can set your opponents in terms of card advantage, especially if they're under stax effects. That is when Phyrexian Arena and Dark Confidant shine. The whole group knows of every card you draw, so it draws a lot of hate. Updated Sep 04, 2020 by rrichiee using our MTG Deck Builder. You will need at least 5 cards with such effects, to implement if you consistently don't draw enough. Search for the perfect addition to your deck. Then again you can combine the two but try to pick one strategy over another. Magic The Gathering, magic cards, singles, decks, card lists, deck ideas, wizard of the coast, all of the cards you need at great prices are available at Cardkingdom. I think he is stuck between Yes and No, but it really depends on the build. Unfulfilled Desires - Gatherer, MC, ($)[[cardname]] to call - not on gatherer = not ^^^fetchable. About quanity vs quality of tokens/creatures in general it depends on what you can get better. Do it! Dark Confidant is almost the epitome of a competitive card. ), ( You may have to reconsider some choices in the creature compartment imo. With that in mind, suggestions are welcome No, I havenât had someone put a knife in my spine either, but having a friend betray you at the last moment is devastating. Most of what you would need I can trade to you, including Morophon, the Boundless, and most supplemental cards I don't have are in the 25-cent to $1 range (Realm-Cloaked Giant, Mayael the Anima, etc). Discord Server | Things like Phyrexian Reclamation, Animate Dead, and Reanimate are great for creature decks. Phyrexian Arena: Low cost of 1 life/card/turn. There are some surprisingly potent options. I was wondering if a card like [[Unfulfilled Desires]] is just not worth running in a more competitive build? I take care of my possessions. I can see it being quite impactful in a gy heavy build, but it doesn't play nice with a deck relying on many counters. Export to Archidekt. mono black suicide deck with [[Syr Konrad, the Grim]] Can conditionally draw you a lot of cards in a small amount of time. But is it ever legitimate to not run it in a deck with black in it, specifically a mono-black deck? Green has some amazing card-draw already but it wouldn't be a terrible idea to supplement it with Blue cards. At the beginning of your upkeep, you draw a card and you lose 1 life. Privacy statement | OdricAllyofZendikar thanks for the comments! Casting these spells requires access to plentiful black mana. The first time around, I concluded that Exotic Orchard ⦠Cookies help us deliver our Services. It is also known as the Machine Hell and the Nine Hells.3 As a yet unnamed plane, Phyrexia was created by an ancient evil planeswalker.4 Little is known ⦠I think necropotence is a better form of card advantage. by Heliogabale, Marchesa Combo However I'm not certain how Read the Bones, a sorcery, is a better option than Phyrexian Arena. I would add a few more lands to make space I'd remove Zetalpa, Primal Dawn, Heliod's Intervention, and Cavalier of Night the mana curve looks a little high for the land count. I am also excited for this pairing. See cards from the most recent sets and discover what players just like you are saying about them. Commander Decks. and pack some premium removal in the deck to raise the power level. I play it in all my decks and have never been disappointed with casting it. Four or five colors would allow you to run that. Copy. Tl;DR depends on the deck and level of play. Black doesn't provide too much in the way of utility specific to giant tribal or stompy decks other than recursion and good card draw like Greed, Phyrexian Arena, and Erebos, God of the Dead. Well, luckily this one is one of the easiest to find budget upgrades for because several great ones exist. If you want to win consitenly I would add more ways to produce infinte mana like Nim Deathmantle + Priest of Gix + Ashnod's Altar or Magus of the Coffers + Staff of Domination OR another unigue and complicated way to filter infinite colorless mana with Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth is together with Mirage Mirror and a Swamp... To make the whole thing more consistent you have play all green and black tutors, play fast mana like the Moxes, Mana Crypt/-Vault, Manadorks (Elvish Mystic/Elves of Deep Shadow/Llanowar Elves etc. Recovering from boardwipes will be important. Everything you will want to be doing with Giant Tribal, Green supports and supports well. ), ( Arena/Study are cute. This site © 2020 TappedOut.net, LLC EDH Recommendations and strategy content for Magic: the Gathering Commander By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies.
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